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Is this school respectable?

Pirjo
Hi.
I am an finnish woman who is living in Germany. I am looking into studying online to become crime scene investigator. I found this school, American Institute of Applied Science, online. I was wondering if it is respectable, and if it will provide any help for me on my way to my dream career.
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MHerrera
Hello,

Well my Name is Maria, I live in Miami -FLA and I am also interested in becoming a crime scene technicia, I am 22 and @ college aswell.. I found out about his institute a couple of weeks ago and so I emailed one of my friends at the police department..he replied the following to me..I hope this helps.. as an FYI I will be also attending this School..

They are a subsidiary of Sirchie, which is perhaps the most prominent seller of a crime scene supplies in the U.S.. It is a legitimate and, in my dealings with Sirchie, honest. So, I would expect that you would indeed be taught proper technique. BUT - look closer and think about it:

"Thousands of AIAS graduates are law enforcement professionals who hold important positions in the field of criminal identification and forensic science. Over 350 law enforcement agencies throughout the world accept or require this program for positions in identification bureaus and crime labs."

The first sentence does NOT say that being an AIAS graduate got them jobs a law enforcement professionals. All it says is that thousands of law enforcement professionals have taken at least one course from them. I'm pretty sure nearly all of them had been employed for years when they took a class with them.

And the statement about 350 agencies? It says they "accept" it, not require it or even expect it. Accept for what? Bogus claim.

What matters is what it will and won't get you:

It will get you the basics of evidence collection and some processing of the sort that might qualify you for entry level trainee crime scene tech, a civilian position of low pay relative to just about everyone else in the agency. There are very few of these jobs, anyway.

It will give you enough to apply for an entry level trainee position in an AFIS unit, another low-pay job, but one way to begin working up to latent print examiner.

It will NOT qualify you as an analyst of any kind. You will still be many hours and some years away from working in questioned documents, firearms, latent print, etc.

You will NOT be qualified for the $120K/year jobs in Iraq and Afganistan. You won't have the experience.

It won't get you a job as a detective. For that you do what the rest of us did and start in patrol.



Bottom line: These are very basic courses. I've been a detective and crime scene specialist and analyst for many years, and I teach several of the topics covered by the AIAS program. They are NOT what we call "training to competency." They are merely introductions - well, more than introductions, but you're not ready to be turned loose to do anything. They are very useful courses for detectives who need and want more knowledge than they often get in their in-service courses or who want it faster.

Your best course is to first study the employment options. What are the different roles and jobs. Find out just what's involved in applying for them or applying for the jobs you have to do to work up to them. Then see what, if any, schools are needed or desired. There are actually very few jobs in criminal forensics, and most of them are analyst jobs, highly specialized, and all of them requiring four-year degrees or years of experience. There are some crime scene tech jobs, but they are strictly evidence collection and photography, although they also can be a way in toward an analyst job. None of the above are commonly sworn positions, although some sworn officers have moved to them.

Detectives are drawn from the ranks of experienced uniformed officers. For that, you meet the minimum education requirements for applying as an officer, anything from just high school to two or four-year degrees. They won't care what your degree is in. Always look to the future. Go down and talk to people who are actually doing the work you want to do in the city where you want to do it. They will be happy to talk to you about the jobs.

Thousands of programs have cropped up suddenly, for no other reason than television has given people an idea that there are lots of forensic jobs and has given them a completely false notion of what the jobs are like. That part is, I think, flatly dishonest. Do your own research. Never fall into believing what the hype implies about schools and programs.



Maria H
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Dear Mr. / Mrs.
   I am 2nd lieutenant Karwan Mahmood Ahmed
I am from Iraq, I have bachelor degree in police science ,  and I want to progress my learning about this scope , particular in Forensic Sciences ) crime scene investigation( , and get master degree in the crime scene investigation , I hope that you can help me to find the collage or university of this education ,
       Kind regards
 
 
   2nd lieutenant Karwan Mahmood Ahmed
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Dana Sutherland
Michigan State University has a Forensic Program (master's degree program) you have to apply and be accepted into, but they have three concentrations: Forensic Biology, Forensic Chemistry, and Forensic Anthropology  http://www.forbio.msu.edu/requirements.html This is the web address for the sight  found it on.  The program director responded to me within 24 hours to answer my questions.